Why David Starkey is a racist – an analysis
Anna Hedge looks at what makes David Starkey so wrong in the views he put across on Newsnight last week
Quite why David Starkey was on the Newsnight panel in the first place remains something of a mystery. His specialism is the Tudor period, and whilst it might have been enlightening to hear him on the topic with regard to recent events, that’s not what we got. Neither is he an authority on the history of London, ‘black British history’ or anything other possible research area that springs to mind as being faintly relevant. One can only presume, sadly, that he was there for his ratings and his ability to ‘generate debate’. In that at least he turned out to be an ideal booking.

Emily Maitlis asked David Starkey for his opinion on the causes of the riots-he responded by pointing out that as a historian, in one sense he couldn’t say what had caused events, as it was too soon to say. I was actually quite taken with that response, and thought it spot on. Then the other shoe dropped:
‘The whites have become black’
This statement assumes 2 things: firstly that there are such things as ‘white’ and ‘black’ culture. Secondly, that it was the assumption of ‘black culture’ by white people that has led to the lawlessness and abandonment of fellow feeling, expressed through the riots.
I used to visit my mother in South Africa during the eighties, and lived there for several years in the nineties. I observed as a teenager & as an adult, the way in which people, sensing that flat-out racism was no longer a la mode, shall we say, would recast their views thus:
‘I’m not a racist. I’m a racialist. I don’t think people are better than each other, they’re just different. So why would someone from Khayelitsha want to live next door to me/go to my son’s school?’
I would put Starkey into this camp: A racist, but one who hides his racism under a veneer of ‘culture’. As he said ‘It’s not skin colour, it’s culture’. He then associates black culture with the rioting on the streets- ‘It certainly glorifies it’.
Later on in the panel discussion, he quoted a text message sent by a girl caught up in the riots, delivered in a faux Jamaican patois.
Young people have always had their own slang/groupspeech. Judging from my son and his friends, at the moment these consist of faux-Californian, faux-Italian (via Assassin’s Creed), text speak, faux-Essex and yes, faux-Jamaican. But to suggest that one text message sent by one teenager proves anything, is well, ridiculous.
Which brings me onto the question of technology: There has been has been much breathless commentary of the role of the Blackberry Messenger system in the riots, and in particular their spread over different districts of London. Repeat after me-technology is never a cause of events. It can enable people to act on their impulses, but can never cause them in the first place. To suggest as some have, that BBM was a contributory cause, is like saying the trains delivering troops to the Belgian front caused the First World War. After all, if technology was going to prevent crime, you’d have thought CCTV would have been of utility-and that has only enabled the police to do their job after the event.
Starkey, unprompted, brought up Enoch Powell’s ‘Rivers of blood’ speech. Now, that speech isn’t just a speech, any more than Martin Luther King’s ‘I have a dream’ speech is just a speech. It’s a signifier- or, in crude terms, a dog-whistle. It says ‘I am about to talk about the impact of immigration in terms of race, even if I subsequently deny it.’ Which he duly did.
Later in the discussion, Starkey made reference to David Lammy, saying he ‘sounds white’. What does actually mean? Received pronunciation? Scouse? Brummy? Scots? To follow Starkey’s logic, you’d think he was saying that all whites sound alike, and therefore by extension, so do all blacks. If that’s not racist I don’t know what is-but I suspect that if interrogated on that point, DS would attempt to move the discussion onto ‘culture’ as per the block quote above.
But Starkey in saying this of Lammy, revealed his true game: not only to attribute much of the ills of society to the influence of ‘black’ culture on poor whites-but to simultaneously appropriate black Britons in positions of power to the white elite. Lammy is acceptable, because he is like ‘us’.
It’s at this point, that I need to answer the question: If not race, what did cause the riots?
Prima facie the criminality and wanton lack of self-restraint of individuals caused what had been a peaceful demonstration related to the shooting of Mark Duggan to mutate with frightening speed into what we saw. But how did they get to that point?

‘Shopping with violence’. It sounds like something out ‘A Clockwork Orange’-but it remains one of the most penetrating observations of what happened I have heard. For the last 30-odd years, and with increasing speed over the last 15, we as a society have been sold the idea, that we are what we possess. To be is to consume, the more publicly the better. Which would be fine (-ish), if everyone had the same access to the means of consumption. They don’t-although there have been examples of ‘respectable’ (and isn’t that a loaded term in this context?) people caught up in the riots and looting, for the most part were young. Young and poor.
Added to which is our society’s attitude to children and young people. We don’t like them. We say that they are their parents’ responsibility, whilst at the same time allowing capitalism, that provider of shiny things for all, to demand that its needs be attended to before we are allowed to meet those of our children. We allow the press to routinely slag off single mothers, and by extension their children, as the root of many social ills. But then we (or rather this government) say that to provide those parents with extra support to fulfil their social contract and their need to work, is to encourage fecklessness and family breakdown. Idealised children, missing or even dead, gazing from the front pages of the tabloids, we like very much. But actual children, especially needy, difficult, angry children we do not like at all.

Much has been written about ‘stop and search’ as it related to inter-racial tensions. But young people, arguably, are the most discriminated-against group of all. They can be moved on just for there being three of them gathered together. We have transformed childhood from a time of discovery, to a time of Gradgrindian exams, which are then denigrated as being of less and less worth. Mind you, given the surge in youth unemployment and the exploding cost of higher education, that won’t matter. Even if young people jump over the hurdles we call essential, many will fall before crossing the finishing line. And they know it.
David Starkey touched on none of this. Instead he spoke about how ‘whites are becoming black’. How a black MP ‘sounds white’. How black culture ‘glorifies’ street violence. David Starkey is wrong. David Starkey is a racist.
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4:05 pm 17th August, 2011
David Starkey clearly isn’t a racist. Racism is the belief that inherent biological differences between races determine cultural and individual behaviour and achievement. In saying that David Lammy could only be identified as being black by sight, and that many white people have adopted a subculture that is traditionally black (but to which most black people do not belong) he’s clearly arguing the opposite of racism.
He was also not arguing that there is a unitary black culture. You obviously missed the words “particular form” and “particular type”.
4:58 pm 17th August, 2011
You are right to wonder why Starkey was invited to appear on BBC Newsnight and – I believe – right again that it was probably because his extreme views would kick up a debate.
Sadly, all that happened was that Starkey was given air time to broadcast his racist blethering. The other participants in the discussion were not given sufficient time to rebut his nonsense. The consequences, unintended or not, are that by – presenting Starkey and providing him with a platform – BBC Newsnight’s editors colluded in racism to the extent that they (a) knowingly provided the opportunity, and (b) compounded it by restricting the right of reply by other participants.
9:33 pm 17th August, 2011
Hell Yeah! David Starkey is racists using his cultural-elitism to cover his tracks.
10:13 pm 17th August, 2011
Some comments on this rather poor attempt at a hatchet job:
1) David Starkey was chosen for because he recently was part of a television project to teach inner city kids. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/mar/02/tv-review-jamies-dream-school . He garnered a lot of criticism for his behaviour there, however, this is one of the reasons he was chosen; he recently came into conflict with “inner city” children who had already been excluded from school, and had already been sanctioned for his view of them. A secondary reason is that if you’re looking for a reactionary, pro-establishment figure who will give you an opinion of an UK that had an Empire, then you go to him.
I suggest a quick biography mug up.
2) “To suggest as some have, that BBM was a contributory cause, is like saying the trains delivering troops to the Belgian front caused the First World War.”
War by Timetable, 1969, A.J.P. Taylor. He was a famous historian. Not sure if your comment is supposed to be an ironic snark at a better historian than you, or just plain ignorance. Either way, it makes you look stupid – insert:
http://memegenerator.net/instance/9095143
3) Prima facie the criminality and wanton lack of self-restraint of individuals caused what had been a peaceful demonstration related to the shooting of Mark Duggan to mutate with frightening speed into what we saw.
And now, we come to the worst revisionism that the hypocritical and shallow appraisal of the riots brings. The riots “kicked off” because eight police officiers savagely beat a 16 year old girl with batons during a protest to demand answers for Duggan’s death.. This is the reason that the UK media are now ignoring, because it goes against the rather nice “pro-Police, pro-Law&Order, pro-Fascist” narrative we have at the moment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023254/Tottenham-riot-Mark-Duggan-shooting-sparked-police-beating-girl.html
(And yes, the irony of using the Daily Mail is intentional – however, you should google the youtube video of the event to judge for yourself).
4) Starkey’s comments on “black culture” and “whites have become black” is probably more insightful than he intended, and for all the wrong reasons. However, it is clear that Starkey is framing his response about two decades too late; he is (of course) having the discussion over NWA and rap music that everyone else had back when this was radical – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZi25Pq3T8&ob=av3e . Does this make him a dinosaur? Of course – he is a white, upper/middle class tenured professor. His point is actually about gang culture being predominantly influenced by American rap culture mixed with the inner city Jamaican yardie – circa 1981 Toxteth / Brixton riots.
In essence, Starkey is referencing the modern riots to the 1980′s and getting his references muddled; unsurprising, but hardly shocking. However, when he states “whites have become black”, he’s actually correct: the real political battle being fought at the moment is between the “haves” and the “have’s more” and the middle classes – neoliberal doctrine in the USA and UK is removing worker’s rights, middle class aspirational models and reducing society into a two tier strata.
So, if we understand “whites have become black” to mean “there is now a large class of people whose input into society is marginalised, ignored and frankly heavily sedated through cheap alcohol, TV pop idol and lack of social and economic mobility and the top 0.1% of society is actively making that class larger” then, yes, “we’re all black now”.
Natch.
1:47 am 17th August, 2011
I don’t see how any of what you wrote proves that he is racist or that his views are judging anything besides culture, which is indeed associated with ethnicity.
3:49 am 17th August, 2011
Oh, and btw.
Google “Flash Mob Rob”.
It is a meme that has been used in America since April 2011, and is a deliberate attempt to raise hell.
Want to know who created the American meme?
Guess what – Government.
Muppets.
10:03 am 17th August, 2011
I think the most important point here is that Starkey is not qualified to talk about teenagers living in deprived inner-city areas.
I can’t imagine how Starkey could possibly know anything about youth culture, unless that youth is Edward VI.
I saw a good post by one of the Guardian writers who grew up in Tottenham and said that for the first fifteen years of his adult life, having left Tottenham, he never met anyone in the media who knew anything about the area. Now, it seemed to him, absolutely everybody employed in the British media holds expert views on the socio-economic situation in Tottenham.
8:57 pm 17th August, 2011
Annonymous English teacher writes
“In essence, Starkey is referencing the modern riots to the 1980′s and getting his references muddled; unsurprising, but hardly shocking. However, when he states “whites have become black”, he’s actually correct:”
Actually he is wrong.
1. It is extremely arrogant and foolish for an old white person to assume he knows what “black culture” is and then to authoritatively describe black culture in the derogatory manner televised. Perhaps he would have been so bold as to define black culture before attributing his negative perceptions of it to white people.
2. If we are to define cultures based on media coverage of the criminal activities of the minority is Dr David Starkey suggesting paedophilia and it’s associated murders of young children is an unfortunate aspect of white culture? What say he of
(i) Ian Huntley (2002: Murder of 2 ten year old girls)?
(ii) Roaul Moat? (2010: Murder & waging war on the British Police resulting in an officer being blinded for life)
(iii) Lyle & Eric Menendez brothers (1989 shotgun murder of their wealthy parents)
(iii) Football hooliganism of the 70′s and 80s?
(iv) Thomas Hamilton (1996) kills 16 children and one adult (Dunblane Massacre)
(v) Jared Loughner’s (2011) Shot dead 6 people including a 9 year old girl!
(vi) Jack The Ripper (Unidentified Serial Killer) (1888: Historical significance?)
(vii) David Copeland (former BNP member) 1999 London Nail bomber? (Killed 3, injured 129 including a 23 month old child)
etc etc etc etc
3. “Glorifying violence”. The movie industry is certainly more influential and more powerful than the record industry (owned by us). I’m an old man that remembers very clearly us whites glorifying gun violence. Mass white audiences once filled cinemas where the sole story line was to see how fast one white person can shoot dead another white person. Perhaps you’re too young to remember this. There are “actually” repeats of Clint Eastwood’s movies, however . Great cinema history for us to be proud of and certainly glorifying one of the worst forms of violence known to man.
4. Glorifying crime! Why do we refer to the wicked criminal act of murder and robbery as “Great”. Re: Ronnie Bigs. “Great” Train Robbery in which someone actually later lost his life. People have argued over whether Jack Mills died of unrelated causes but really? Is that the point? If black people had been responsible for stealing an estimated £2.6 million in arguably the largest robbery in British history would so many members of our “colour” hold them in such high regard. “Actually” NO! We certainly would not be marching on behalf of a black criminal called Ronnie Biggaya. We may have even considered the reintroduction of the death penalty!
5. I could go on but I’m bored of educating racists! I’m old enough to know several people who lost their lives in a World War against someone who shared similar views to Nick Griffin & David Sparky.
9:07 pm 17th August, 2011
Hi. Thank you all for taking the time to comment. Every comment has given me reason to think…
Mark: The part you’re missing out of your definition of ‘racism’ is the belief that the inherent biological/cultural difference posited, make one race superior to another. In associating ‘black culture’ with criminality and violence, and appropriating David Lammy as a ‘white’, Starkey was clearly positioning white culture as superior to black, and white people as superior to black people.
Anonymous English School Teacher: may I ask the source of your knowledge of the reasons for Starkey’s being booked? I am well aware of the work of AJP Taylor. In both cases, the technology enabled events-it didn’t /cause/ them: people did. I am aware of the beating of the 16-yr old girl: I didn’t discuss that (as perhaps I should) as the focus of this piece (or hatchet job, to use your phrase) was Starkey. But events like that have, sadly, occurred before. It wasn’t in and of itself remarkable.
I do take your point about rap music and the 80′s-I have actually been surprised at the fact that parallels between the riots and say, the Rodney King case have not been drawn at all, in our media.
Thank you all again. I’ll do better next time….
12:49 pm 17th August, 2011
Off topic, this, but Anonymous English Teacher above has appalling grammar. No wonder the young people are confused.
12:58 pm 17th August, 2011
David Starkey is most certainly a racist using the fact he’s a historian as a facade.
1:35 pm 17th August, 2011
To the (far too) many defenders of Starkey out there, if you fail to see the inherent bigotry in his words and attitudes, I really think that you need to examine your own personal politics, rather than just try to legitimise them. Like those who try to understand why so many behaved in the way that they did during the riots, and try to find solutions, people need to understood why Starkey’s attitudes are so destructive .
I suspect that many on all sides need better education. A lack of education leads to ignorance, but a wilful ignorance is stupidity.
10:39 pm 17th August, 2011
To the author of this article: David Starkey was NOT asked “what caused the riots?”, and he did not attempt to answer that question! He was asked “Do you think this has been a profound cultural shift?”. LISTEN TO THE FUCKING QUESTION! He says that the underclass youth of the UK (which is composed of both white and black people) have adopted a style of violence that we previously associated only with inner city back communities in Jamaica and the USA. So that is the cultural shift. Question answered. And then what happens? Dreda Say bloody Mitchell piles in with “of all the theories we’ve heard this week, this whole notion that this is down to … ” WE WEREN’T TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT IS “DOWN TO” LOVE! LISTEN TO THE FUCKING QUESTION! I think the way he was treated on this program was a total disgrace. David Starkey is a great academic, writer, and teacher. He is also a gay man who practiced his sexuality openly throughout all his adult life in times when that was not an easy thing to do. HE DESERVES TO BE TREATED WITH A BIT OF RESPECT, especially by the likes of Owen Jones The Author of Chavs and Dreda Say Mitchell, who have achieved essentially nothing of any significant value in their lives by comparison. Starkey is not known for subtlety, granted … we don’t call him the “rudest man in Britain” for nothing … but we mustn’t confuse insensitivity with prejudice. I think that the way he gets shouted down an talked down to epitomises everything that is wrong with society nowadays – the riots included – no respect for elders, teachers or anything they have to say … just this kind of childish “he said something racist Miss” finger pointing. It’s pathetic.
12:10 am 17th August, 2011
Dave Starkey is clearly a racist trying to justify his racism with turns of words and his academic pedigree.
Mark, why can’t one say that “the Blacks are becoming White”? Is such hooliganism behaviour that we observed throughout England somehow particular to Blacks or “Black Culture”? Isn’t there a “particular form” or “particular type” of white culture that is also disposed to the behaviour we saw during the riots?
12:29 am 17th August, 2011
David Starkey is most definitely *not* a racist. What we should be addressing is the nation of lilly livered liberals who can not take a dose of truth. These people can not distinguish between statement of fact or opinion and racism.
It seems that nowadays, all you need to mention is the word black and the opinion is deemed racist.
Had this colours been reversed, and Starkey been talking about whites, no one would have batted an eyelid.
2:19 am 17th August, 2011
Paul, I agree with you about education but one can’t say Starkey isn’t educated. Maybe it’s lack of applicable education that is the problem?
Anonymous English Teacher, I did indeed seek out the youtube clip where ‘eight police officiers savagely beat a 16 year old girl with batons’ (allegedly). It doesn’t exactly reinforce your argument. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5GHeosjAEA for anyone who’s interested. Surely the violence had been occuring for quite a long time by the time of this incident? So, whether it was acceptible or not, suggesting that it caused the violence to kick off seems somewhat disingenuous. I’d also point out that your Daily Mail link refers to a ‘stone throwing’ girl which further doesn’t help your argument.
I think Starkey was quite clever by saying ‘a particular sort’. It appears to give him a get out clause that not all ‘blacks’ are representative of the nihilistic gangster culture at which he lays all blame for the violence and crime. What is shocking to me is how quickly the causes of what happened got laid at the door of all the ‘easy’ usual suspects: blacks, gangs, social media, single mothers, hip hop music and the moral breakdown of society at large. Many commentators and comment-ators can’t even be bothered to point out that most of the rioting outside of London was largely perpetrated by white youths let alone accusing them of adopting a ‘black culture’ to facilitate and justify their behaviour.
The whole point of the Newsnight debate seemed flawed to me. ‘Do you think this has been a profound cultural shift, David Starkey?’ What sort of question is that? And, if even relevant, how could it possibly be answered only two days after serious rioting and ‘shopping with violence’ had stopped? The question that should have been asked was, ‘Do we all jump far too easily and quickly to lazy, stereotyped, convenient labelling/blame casting, after a series of events like this?’
Personally I abhor the soundbite culture we live in. However, whilst Starkey’s ‘the whites have become black’ is a soundbite itself, easily taken out of context to whip up an anti-racist furore, I still think Anne’s blog pretty much hits the nail on the head and find her comments about how ‘we don’t like children’ to be provocative and thought provoking. The easiest way to test what Starkey said is to posit more theories. Were the people committing crime on our streets only those who adhere to Starkey’s chosen demographic? Is ‘becoming black’ essentially a bad thing? Does ‘a particular sort of nihilistic gangster culture’ really exist on our streets? Is it populated by white people? Does this exclude the possibility that white people can be nihilistic gangsters in their own right without resorting to adopting someone else’s ‘culture’ to be so? What is culture? Is it like society? Has culture broken down? If someone adopts the cultural stylings of a particular group of other people, does that make them more or less likely to ‘shop with violence’? If they stop adopting those stylings, will they revert back to non violent shopping? Was there no violence or looting before the alleged adoption of ‘black’ gangster culture?
The more one thinks about it, the more this casual ascribing of causality to ONE race, whether it’s a ‘particular sort’ of that race or not, can be seen to be incendiary at best and absolutely racist at worst. Unfortunately however Starkey’s comments are just the tip of the iceberg. I suggest however it allows us all to see what other people really stand for. Listen to whom other people blame and you’ll know straight away what their prejudices are. And if you meet someone who says they don’t know yet why the looting and violence happened and they’re still trying to work it out, I’d shake their hand and maybe take their number!
7:48 am 17th August, 2011
I agree that Starkey got it wrong. However I grow tired of the predictable response of the liberal left to brand any who depart from the party line as “racist”. It has become the modern equivalent of branding someone a “witch”. The Left should stop treating their own views as self evidently correct and all those who depart from them as wilfully ignorant and morally bankrupt.
Starkey represents a large and growing body of people disillusioned with a rapidly changing society. Simply treating them with self righteous disdain marginalises a growing body of the population who wrongly see the riots as justification for their own opinions.
Where has the ability of the Left to engage and debate with it’s opponents disappeared to? It seems that the first and only resort is to immediately denounce said opponents as “racists” and lapse into sanctimonious hysteria.
It is a grave mistake to believe that Starkey speaks only for himself. If you simply castigate those who express similar beliefs and behave as if they are somehow, lacking intelligence, conscience or the right to express an opinion (so what if he is a Tudor historian??? why does that preclude him from the right to an opinion?) then you’re just stifling debate and playing into the hands of extremists. If people don’t feel as if they have a voice in the mainstream, then they’ll find it through more sxtreme forms of expression. If nothing else, the riots have proved that.
8:35 am 17th August, 2011
David starkey didn’t do any rioting, so find proper reasons.
And quit the personal attacks – they make you look simple.
10:21 am 17th August, 2011
Whilst he appears ignorant at face value-blaming “black culture” which is stupid (and equating violence and a lack of education with skin colour)-what he obviously is getting at is gang culture and all the other panelists and many who are posting here know it.
The racist part is ignorantly labelling it. The others are worse for seeing his intent, ignoring it and not correcting it.
Ignorance is fear and what was needed for Mr. Starkey was a clear dilineation of gang culture and for that to be the focus-in that sense he’s spot on and everyone knows it-but it’s gangs -multicultural, male and female..
Don’t believe me? Go and look for footage feilding opinion from the looters- they all talk about the police being a gang. Only gang members would take this stance. I think maybe he’s a “culturlist” as he wants to segregate culture but what exactly is chav gang culture bringing to the modern Id?
8:38 pm 17th August, 2011
There are several questions I’d like to ask David Starkey.
1. How he explains the behaviour of white people in Britain before “black culture” (his words, not mine) arrived here. Think of the people in Catherine Cookson novels — this is not unlike some of the things my white neighbour experienced living in a back to back in Birmingham the 1940s and 1950s.
2. How roughly 500,00 – 600,000 people can influence roughly 49,000,000? (UK black population is 2%, White population something like 85%.)
Thank you for posting this article — I was linked here through another website and thought I would comment.
11:06 am 17th August, 2011
Read David Starkey He Black at crewbob.blogspot.com
5:46 pm 17th August, 2011
Chris is bang on the money here! Let’s get this right. talking crassly, insensitively and ignorantly about admittedly delicate matters of race does not (and should not) automatically make you a racist. Let’s have a grown up debate about this beyond pious lectures. And while you’re at it, read my post at:http://postdesk.com/blog/david-starkey-racist-or-just-plain-stupid
1:13 am 17th August, 2011
Firstly, I am a Jamaican. Secondly, I am also black. Thirdly, never before have I heard such bigoted comments from someone who is described as educated. Is this the kind of academic Britain produces? It’s no wonder Britain is the pathetic state it is. Does Mr. Starkey and all those whites who have agreed with him realize that they really have done their own race a supreme disservice? The statements made by Mr. Starkey would indicate that his white race has succumbed to being influenced by Jamaican culture (a country with a small population of only about three million) indicating to me gross inferiority on their part. Gang culture? Mr. Starkey seems to attribute the existence of gangs to being a totally black enterprise. Huh? Which century does this man live in? Seems to me white people such as this love to have a scapegoat totally foreign to their own race.